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Pattaya – The beach of Bangkok, and thoughts on retirement

January 28, 2019 By James Clark 3 Comments

Pattaya - The beach of Bangkok, and thoughts on retirement

I’m usually immune to click-bait listicles, especially when they just arbitrarily rank cities. One list that I will always stop to read though is Mastercard’s Global Destination Cities Index. For the 2018 list Bangkok was number one again, which was not a surprise. What was a surprise was to see Pattaya checking in at #18. A lot of that would be spillover from Bangkok, as Pattaya acts as a de facto beach suburb of Bangkok. Pattaya is the easiest beach to get to from Bangkok. Even so, the high ranking made me curious enough to warrant a revisit.

I’ve been meaning to go back to do a Future Pattaya real estate report. There’s also a big railway project about to be confirmed connecting Pattaya to the airports of Bangkok (covered in my future Southeast Asia rail report). With a few days to spare while I was in Bangkok I booked a trip.

Waterfront Suites - Pattaya City

Pattaya has a reputation that precedes itself, and going there by myself as a middle-aged dude certainly raised a few eyebrows and some nudge-nudge wink-winks. If you want to see foreigners behaving badly, then Pattaya is your place. I’m just grateful that I didn’t have my act together to get a passport in my younger days, otherwise I too may have been one of those foreigners behaving badly.

Massage signs

The city is trying to break away from its reputation of being the “sex capital of the world” by marketing itself as a family destination. When I was in Chiang Mai I went to a movie, and one of the pre-movie commercials was for a family resort in Pattaya, so maybe it’s working.

I first went to Pattaya during an east coast trip to Ko Samet and Ko Chang. What I remember the most was how crap the beach was. It turns out that the beach has been losing sand for years, shrinking from 35 metres wide to a few metres. On this most recent visit some of the beach was closed for “Nourishment”.

Pattaya beach nourishment

At first that seemed like a poor translation, but then it’s actually quite a good word as the beach is truly under-nourished and suffering from malnutrition. There was a sand dredge in the bay pumping sand back to the beach, so parts of the beach were a mess while I was there.

Beach rehab

At one end of the beach there was a small section left of how I remembered the beach to be, where there is hardly enough room to unfold a banana lounge.

Small trashy beach

At the other end where the beach has been “renourished” it’s looking like a much healthier beach.

Pattaya Beach

I preferred walking on the beach walkway anyway, which is broad and has plenty of trees along the way.

Beachfront walk

After being based in Saigon for so long it was a novelty to visit a place that enforces a ban of motorbikes on footpaths.

Don't drive on sidewalk

I visited the infamous Walking Street, where you can find all the girlie bars. I was there in the day time, so it has a different vibe when most of the bars are shut.

Walking Street

I encountered a walking tour, who like me were here to see what the fuss was about.

Walking Street tour

Like everywhere else in Southeast Asia, businesses are now catering to the influx of Chinese visitors.

Naughty girls China

The walking street is at the southern end of Pattaya Bay, and at the northern end it’s more upmarket with resorts and luxury apartments.

Pattaya skyline

Pattaya has grown in the same haphazard way as Bangkok, with only a few main through-roads and lots of little alleys in between. Getting around can be slow-going. The main public transport are these “Baht buses”, which is a 10 baht ($0.32c USD) public bus. One day the traffic was so bad it was only a few minutes faster than if I had walked.

Baht Bus

There is also the same crazy wiring that you see in Bangkok (and Vietnam).

Crazy wiring

Visitors from Bangkok will be familiar with the Terminal 21 shopping mall. I saw one in Korat, and the one in Pattaya has enough real estate to place a model airplane out the front.

Terminal 21

I had been walking for hours at this point, so I went inside to bring down the core body temperature for a while. Terminal 21 in Bangkok has one of my favourite food courts, so I was curious to see the food court at the Pattaya branch. I was happy to see that they have some of my favourite food stalls here, including the same duck and rice place I go to in Bangkok.

Duck and rice

During this trip I had thoughts of retirement on my mind. Not that I’m in a position to retire, and I don’t ever seeing myself retiring in a traditional sense. Maybe I will be like this guy.

In Australia the retirement age is 67 (retirement as in you can claim the Age Pension). If the current government gets its way it will be 70 by 2035. I was thinking about “retirement” as it’s possible to live in Thailand on a retirement visa, where the minimum age is 50.

Sometimes I still think of myself as a backpacker, yet here I am just over three years away from being considered as a retiree in this country. I have some friends in Thailand on the retirement visa, and it surprised me they were on the visa because they don’t look over 50. It was also a bit disturbing to have peers of a similar age who are officially retired.

Walking around Pattaya also gave me pause for thought about where I would be when I retire, and what I would look like. Viewing Pattaya through a prism of retirement, I can see how it would appeal to retirees. It’s a cheap place to live, so a meagre pension in the west goes a lot further here.

Property advertising

For example, in that duck and rice place I was talking about, you can get a plate of duck and rice for 37 baht ($1.17 USD). That’s duck for a buck. I would be hard-pressed to find a meal like that in Australia for under $10.

Duck and rice price

Or you could go to a resort and have an all-you-can-eat dim sum buffet lunch for 650 THB ($20.63 USD).

Dim Sum- buffet

It’s an international city, with people from all around the world here. And you are close enough to Bangkok for whatever else you need.

Urban beach

The story I’ve been following is the planned high-speed train to connect the two airports of Bangkok (Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi) to U-Tapao–Rayong–Pattaya International Airport. This “High-Speed Rail Linked 3 Airport” project will effectively make U-Tapao the third airport of Bangkok. Pattaya also plan to build a monorail from the high-speed station to the beach, bypassing the need for taxis. The current train from Bangkok to Pattaya takes 3h 40m.

Even without the railway, U-Tapao is getting better connected with more domestic and international flights. For example there are domestic flights to Chiang Mai, and Qatar Airways have a direct service here.

In the future Pattaya could become part of a Greater Bangkok Conurbation. The Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC) might make it the Tokyo Bay or Pearl River Delta of Southeast Asia.

It will be interesting to see how Pattaya turns out if/when this railway is finished. The railway would make it a viable commuter city.

On the other side of the Bay of Bangkok, Pattaya also faces competition from Hua Hin as a retirement destination. It’s further from Bangkok than Pattaya, so it doesn’t get the same kind of weekend traffic. If the planned Hua Hin high-speed train goes ahead, then it will also become a viable close-to-Bangkok beach destination.

Personally, I would probably pick Chiang Mai if I was going to go down the Thailand retirement visa route. And If I was going to pick a beach city I would put my money on Da Nang in Vietnam.

James in Pattaya

Filed Under: Travel Blog Tagged With: pattaya, thailand

Comments

  1. Myriam Haar says

    January 30, 2019 at 7:03 am

    Interesting article. Personally not for me at all, too big, too congested, too crowded.
    If I had to retire in Thailand I’d indeed choose CM.
    The thing is that you need to have $85,000 on your bank account and prove a minimum pension of $2000/month. That is not really a retirement for just anyone.
    Whereas in Cambodia, if you are 55 you get a retirement visa, no question asked. And they have some very nice islands too over here.
    But I must say that Da Nang sounds great for a seaside retirement city.

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  2. Rey Waters says

    February 1, 2019 at 11:56 pm

    Enjoyed your article. You are correct in that if you are doing what you love retirement is only a state of mind. I am 71 and semi-retired in Japan. My Japanese wife and I moved here in 2013 and I immediately started writing about all my travel experiences. I can’t imagine slowing down. We visited Thailand last year and enjoyed it very much. My wife is a city person and I am a country boy, so living in a Yokohama suburb meets both our requirements. It is nowhere near the costs of living in Tokyo, although more expensive than most of Asia. Definitely want to visit Da Nang on one of our future trips. Have a great 2019.

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    • James Clark says

      February 11, 2019 at 8:18 am

      Hi Rey, sounds like a good compromise so glad it’s worked out for you.

      Reply

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